How come grad^2 f=(1)/(r^2)(del)/(del r)(r^2 (del f)/(del r)) yet f=int int f"drdr?

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2022-08-12

How come 2 f = 1 r 2 r ( r 2 f r ) yet f = f d r d r?
In spherical coordinate, suppose f dependents only on r. Then 2 f = 1 r 2 r ( r 2 f r ). However, to integral f′′ back the f, f d r d r
How could that be?

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Tristian Clayton

Tristian Clayton

Beginner2022-08-13Added 12 answers

It's not true that 2 f ( r ) = f ( r ) in 3D. In 1D we do have 2 f ( x ) = 2 f ( x ) x 2 = f ( x ) and even if spherical symmetry is effectively 1D it's not as simple as to assume the 1D Laplacian with r instead of x (something changing radially is fundamentally different than something changing along one of the axes). The definition of the Laplacian as (here in 3D)
2 f 2 f x 2 + 2 f y 2 + 2 f z 2
is for Cartesian coordinates ( x , y , z ). If you start from this and change to spherical coordinates ( r , θ , ϕ ) and assume f only depends on r then you will get the expression you have in your question
2 f ( r ) = f ( r ) + 2 r f ( r )
Try to derive this using the chain-rule f ( r ) x = x r f ( r ) r and so on. If you manage this then you can try to generalize it by doing it in n dimensions (for which the result is the same as above with the 2 above becoming n−1).
Secondly if you have any (two times continuously differentiable) function of a single variable then we always have " f ( z ) = f ( z ) d z d z", or more precisely
f ( z ) = f ( 0 ) + f ( 0 ) z + 0 z ( 0 z f ( w ) d w ) d z
This expression doesn't care about which kind of coordinates it is, it's simply a consequence of the fundamental theorem of calculus.

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