Find all functions f such that f(x-f(y))=f(f(x))-f(y)-1.

Aarav Atkins

Aarav Atkins

Answered question

2022-10-29

Find all functions f such that f ( x f ( y ) ) = f ( f ( x ) ) f ( y ) 1
So far, I've managed to prove that if f is linear, then either f ( x ) = x + 1 or f ( x ) = 1 must be true. I did this by plugging in x = 0 to the above equation, which yields
f ( f ( y ) ) = f ( f ( 0 ) ) f ( y ) 1
and plugging in x instead of y and subtracting, this becomes
f ( f ( y ) ) f ( f ( x ) ) = f ( x ) f ( y )
Assuming f ( x ) = a x + b then gives
f ( a y b ) f ( a x b ) = a x a y a 2 y a b + a 2 x + a b = a ( x y ) a 2 ( x y ) = a ( x y ) .
Thus a = 1 or a = 0. If a = 0, then the original equation becomes b = b b 1, thus b = 1. If a = 1, the original equation becomes
x y b + b = x + 2 b y b 1 b = 1.
I briefly tried finding a quadratic function that works but didn't find anything. So my question is: how can I either show that f must be linear or find all other representations?

Answer & Explanation

Travis Sellers

Travis Sellers

Beginner2022-10-30Added 18 answers

Step 1
if we can say that f is polynomial, then since f ( f ( y ) ) f ( f ( x ) ) = f ( x ) f ( y ), we can say that f ( f ( y ) ) + f ( y ) = f ( f ( x ) ) + f ( x ) for any x , y Z. Hence, f ( f ( x ) ) + f ( x ) is constant for all x Z.
If d e g ( f ) > 0 then f has infinitely many values, so we can say f ( x ) + x is constant, say f ( x ) + x = c.
Step 2
Then f ( x ) = c x
If d e g ( f ) = 0 then f is constant and you know the answer.
Aldo Ashley

Aldo Ashley

Beginner2022-10-31Added 2 answers

Step 1
Here's a partial solution.
If 0 is a possible value of f, then by taking f ( y ) = 0 we get f ( f ( x ) ) = f ( x ) + 1. That is, f ( t ) = t + 1 for t f ( Z ), and in particular f ( Z ) contains all nonnegative integers. If we define g ( x ) = f ( x ) x, the equation becomes
g ( x f ( y ) ) = g ( x ) + g ( x + g ( x ) ) 1
Step 2
But note that the right side does not depend on y. Thus, since f(y) can be any nonnegative integer, g must be constant, and taking x = 0 we see that this constant must be 1. So the only solution where 0 is a possible value of f is f ( x ) = x + 1.

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