if v_1=(1+root(3)(10)+root(3)(10^2))/3 and v_2=(7+4root(3)(10)+root(3)(10^2))/3 let w_1=v_1−k and let w_2=v_2−l where k,l in Z How do I ''shift'' v_1,v_2 by some integers k,l so that w_1w_2 in Z?

Jadon Camacho

Jadon Camacho

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2022-11-05

if v 1 = 1 + 10 3 + 10 2 3 3 and v 2 = 7 + 4 10 3 + 10 2 3 3
let ω 1 = v 1 k and let ω 2 = v 2 l where k , l Z
How do we ''shift'' v 1 , v 2 by some integers k , l so that ω 1 ω 2 Z ?

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luthersavage6lm

luthersavage6lm

Beginner2022-11-06Added 22 answers

w 1 w 2 = ( 57 k 7 l ) + 10 1 3 ( 11 k l ) + 10 2 3 ( 18 k 4 l ) 3
Now if the above is an integer, clearly the irrational terms must become zero and other terms in the numerator must be multiple of 3.
pin1ta4r3k7b

pin1ta4r3k7b

Beginner2022-11-07Added 3 answers

Set α = 10 3 , so that α 3 = 10. Multiplying out and simplifying,
ω 1 ω 2 = 1 9 ( 1 + α + α 2 3 k ) ( 7 + 4 α + α 2 3 l ) = 1 9 ( ( 57 21 k 3 l + 9 k l ) + ( 21 12 k 3 l ) α + ( 12 3 k 3 l ) α 2 )   .
Now the numbers 1 , α , α 2 are linearly independent over the rationals. So the only way this expression can be a rational number is if the coefficients of α and α 2 are zero. This gives you two equations which you can solve to find k , l. If k , l are not integers then your problem has no solution; but it turns out that k = 1, l = 3. If you now substitute back into the above, and if ω 1 ω 2 is not an integer, then again your problem has no solution; but it turns out that ω 1 ω 2 = 6.

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